[teknoids] Examsoft on Foreign laptops

MOORE, GARY GMOORE at law.sc.edu
Mon Dec 17 16:13:10 EST 2012


I believe Chris Bombardo at EBB has created a version of his exam software for the Apple iOS.  And if you have a keyboard for an Ipad, like a Zagg Zaggfolio, it works just as well as a laptop computer keyboard.  In fact I prefer it to my Windows netbook.  You can also use CloudOn to work with Word Documents.  I agree with Ken, it's definitely a computer.



Gary Moore
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From: teknoids-bounces at ruckus.law.cornell.edu [mailto:teknoids-bounces at ruckus.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Hirsh, Kenneth (hirshkh)
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Subject: Re: [teknoids] Examsoft on Foreign laptops

An iPad, as most other tablets, is definitely a computer. And all you need to write an exam is typing capability. I'd want a physical keyboard if I were taking an exam with it, but a student used to a phone keyboard might be happy with the iPad's screen keyboard. 
Ken Hirsh
Kenneth J. Hirsh
Director of the Law Library and Information Technology Clinical Professor of Law University of Cincinnati College of Law ken.hirsh at uc.edu

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From: Wiseman, Kim [mailto:kwiseman at richmond.edu]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 03:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [teknoids] Examsoft on Foreign laptops

This is going totally off subject and for that I apologize, but who would want to take an exam on an iPad??  (I'm as apple as they come, but really??  It's NOT a computer).

We use Exam4 and have students with foreign OS and except for one incident, we don't have issues.  Examsoft was so late coming to the game with Mac support I'm not surprised they don't see the need to support other language OS.  The one student with an issue we're still trying to figure out if it's an OS issue or something else.

We tell our students that they must have an english OS because I don't speak different languages and can't offer support.  :-)  But sometimes they don't listen.  I'm still in shock that our students might not listen to me, but I digress ...


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From: <MacKnight>, Scott <scott at law.ucla.edu>
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Date: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:24 PM
To: Teknoids <teknoids at ruckus.law.cornell.edu>
Subject: [teknoids] Examsoft on Foreign laptops

With the growing problems that we're encountering running Examsoft on foreign laptops I wondered what other schools are doing for their LLM students. Do you offer loaner laptops or just make it a requirement to have an English OS?

Scott MacKnight | Chief Information Officer | Ucla School of Law | Phone:
310.206.3446 |www.law.ucla.edu/LawNET<http://www.law.ucla.edu/LawNET>

On 12/16/12 1:07 PM, "Maribel Olvera"
<maribelo at examsoft.com<mailto:maribelo at examsoft.com>> wrote:


ExamSoft is not planning to officially support foreign laptops at this point. We are currently working on supporting iPads in 2013. Our focus for the next 2 years is US based customers and the number of users with non-English laptops is very limited.  We know that many bar exam takers have foreign laptops and are able to use SofTest without any issues, as you have identified. However, we officially don't support non English versions and we cannot recommend their use. Most of our clients have laptop requirements for their exam takers, which include English Operating Systems.

We understand your needs, but supporting multiple languages requires an enormous amount of work for development and testing efforts. Taking on such an endeavor might deviate our attention from properly supporting our current users, and it's not aligned with our current 2-year roadmap. We hope you understand this decision.



From: "Iwane, Reid" <REID at law.ucla.edu<mailto:REID at law.ucla.edu>>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:54:39 -0800
To: Beverly Mindle <bmindle at examsoft.com<mailto:bmindle at examsoft.com>>
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<bweaver at examsoft.com<mailto:bweaver at examsoft.com>>, "Maribel Olvera <maribelo at examsoft.com<mailto:maribelo at examsoft.com>>
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Subject: Re: Forgeign laptops

Hey Beverly,

So the English language pack doesn't make a difference in terms of support?

Other schools allow all of their foreign students to borrow laptops? We have begun to discuss various solutions for our LLM students, but the idea of letting them borrow laptops seems pretty expensive. Out LLM class is generally 80-90 students. That's a lot of laptops to purchase and loan out. Are you aware of any other methods other law schools use?

Irvine has not established a LLM program yet, but has come to us with questions about our current problem. I would like to be able to provide accurate information. Does your company have any plans to support foreign laptops?

Sent from my mobile phone. Please excuse any typos.

On Dec 16, 2012, at 7:55 AM, "Beverly Mindle"
<bmindle at examsoft.com<mailto:bmindle at examsoft.com>> wrote:

Hello Reid,

Thank you for checking in.  Currently we do not support any foreign Operating Systems.  If you have found a way to use a foreign OS to work, then feel free to use that method as a work around.  Other schools will also allow students to borrow a laptop from the school.

If you have additional questions, please let me know.

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On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Iwane, Reid <REID at law.ucla.edu<mailto:REID at law.ucla.edu>> wrote:

I was wondering if ExamSoft has any plans to support foreign laptops?  I overheard someone saying that foreign laptops with the English language pack are supported.  Can you confirm or deny this? The only downside would be the requirement for Windows Professional or Enterprise to run the language packs.

The reason I bring this up is our LLM students.  How do other schools that are using ExamSoft support their LLM students?  We have been able to get SofTest running on most foreign laptops by running it in compatibility mode (XP Service Pack 2).  We also discovered that the eswinsr tool does not work on foreign laptops because it references ³Users² and ³Groups,² which do not show up as the English words ³Users² and ³Groups.²

Reid Iwane
UCLA School of Law
(310) 825-4689<tel:%28310%29%20825-4689>
(310) 267-1895<tel:%28310%29%20267-1895> (fax) www.law.ucla.edu/LawNET<http://www.law.ucla.edu/LawNET>

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